Wal-Mart Brings its Soul-Suckiness to Zion’s Crossroads

News briefs on the local Air America affiliate (WVAX – 1450 AM) are heralding the construction of a new Wal-Mart east of Charlottesville. A local woman is quoted saying that it’s a great thing because there’s nowhere around there to buy coffee. Right.

Where have these people been? If Wal-Mart is coming to your town, your town is in serious trouble. Are they aware that Wal-Mart extrudes about $100,000,000 from local economies through each of its stores annually? Do they know that the money is then shipped off to China, with a short stopover in Arkansas for a brief skimming?

Wal-Mart is a monster and it should be stopped. Frankly, after the tragic Black Friday fiasco, I had hoped the behemoth would be swimming in criminal neglect lawsuits. (They clearly knew what was coming and did nothing to prepare.) I guess Chinese money buys a lot these days, including large-scale legal protection.

DOWN WITH Wal-Mart! If they insist on ruining communities, playing around with local zoning laws, syphoning off tax dollars and draining regional economies, all the while returning all the benefit to China (remember them? – the red menace?), and screwing suppliers and workers in one fell swoop, I, for one, will protest their very existence until the bitter blue-light end.

Buy American! Buy local. Support yourselves, not some monolithic money trap.


44 Responses to “Wal-Mart Brings its Soul-Suckiness to Zion’s Crossroads”

  1. One possible positive outcome of the economic crisis may be the end, or at least serious crippling, of the big box retailers. Though even without the aid of a recession, the end of the soulless strip mall may have soon been nigh. There’s evidence of a growing movement, dubbed by author Joel Kotkin the “New Localism,” of a rejection of suburbia and and a return to city living and the community that city life fosters. Just as anything on a pedestal must fall, behemoths such as Wal-Mart must collapse in on themselves. Furthermore, as more and more people do their shopping online, large retail spaces will cease to be needed. The future is so bright, I gotta wear (American made) shades!

  2. cripsyduck Says:

    God, I hope so. I’ve been anticipating this collapse for years now. (Two wars and less taxes, huh? That’ll be good for the economy…) But now that it’s here, I’m back-pedaling for fear of bread lines. I hope they’re not at the Wal-Mart!

  3. I hate to shop so I don’t go where theres a crowd anyway. For full disclosure sake I will admit to liking the sam’s club, costco sytle places. I like being able to buy months worth of paper products and other non rotting items at one time, although I have not shopped at one for myself in years. I agree with the negitive aspecks of the “Mart” but I came accross this artical – http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGQSr_LRM_.8&refer=worldwide and it tells the tale of of our current eco mess. I know you disagree but this is just another example of the hard fact that people can and will be big ass greedy pricks. Capitalism may be evil or good but it is a proven fact that how people participate in any system is the determining factor in how things come to be. I wonder how many pricks like the guy in the artical are out there around the world who’s ponzi schemes have all come unglued and have all the responsablity for this mess and have escaped to some isle. People, the cause of and solution to all ills. People created Wal-Mart and spend there money there. People got home loans they could not aford. People vote for presidents. People are greedy, ignorant, self absorbed, and bigoted. People run, invest in, and work at institutions, corporations, firms, and big and small businesses. People want to tell you what they think, how you should act, who is good and who is bad, where to eat and what to eat. And on and on and on. People need to …………… With love in my heart!

  4. DB, you’re right that it’s people, but it’s AMERICAN people. It’s this capitalist society that has made people so greedy – so hungry for a deal on a big screen tv that they’ll trample a man to death in order to get it.

  5. cripsyduck Says:

    Yeah, it’s people, all right. Mostly authoritarian, reactionary, greed-worshipping Reaganites who happen to be people. And Madoff is certainly one of them. Then again, capitalism is the art of screwing others – supposedly legally.

    But you are reminding me of the Lincoln quote I heard in the children’s classic “Pollyanna” somebody made me watch the other day. The movie hinges on this revelation:

    “If you look for the bad in mankind, you will surely find it.”

  6. Girlfriend Says:

    I didn’t MAKE you watch it. . .

  7. cripsyduck Says:

    I still want to know if the operation was a success…

  8. I am fairly certain the concept of greed and a common understanding of its effects have been around for a long time. Also capitalism in various forms of commerce. Doing business in an honest form vs. corrupt business practice is a moral choice. There is always corruption in any form of commerce. The laws have to be enforced and written to control commerce but not impede commercial activity.

  9. barndoor cowlegs Says:

    big business does it’s best to make money, period. “honest” businesses don’t succeed, the point is to make money at all costs, even if it means breaking, or making, laws to do it. Likely the recession and impending depression will make Wal-Mart bigger, they do have cheap crap, people buy it. greed isn’t just something large corporations participate in, they market it to consumers. Wal-Mart, while destroying local economies, will come out way stronger if things continue the way they are.
    The best that can be done is for communities to resist allowing Wal-Mart to come to their towns, not an easy task
    One positive, Saskatchewan unionized Wal-Mart recently, more people power to resist Wal-mart is the only way to deal with it, all the regulation in the world can’t slow them down.

  10. I disagree that honest businesses don’t succeed. The best example I can give are BB&T, they have no exposure to the sub-prime mortgage mess. They have stuck to the old school ratio standards (the ratio of deposits to loans) that all banks used to follow. First Union, now Wachovia, was one of only 3 or 4 banks that did not fail during the depression. We all can see the difference a disregard for old ratio approach to banking has caused them and the other mega banks. You can not market greed but you can market jealously. People do not buy out of greed. They buy the “Trinkets” cause they want to have “what everyone else has so they can be cooler or just as cool and hip as ” their contemporaries. It’s jealousy not greed. The greedy, or those business that want to succeed in an honest way, use this jealousy to sell their products. Be it Shenandoah Joe’s, who sell free trade organic coffee, or Wal Mart selling Wii’s for 50% off. Of course the store with the best prices is going to get the most customers. It’s where and how they get low cost items that sucks. Heller had it right. It’s all just a catch 22. Now that the human race is not fighting nature daily just to survive, although the programming is still in place, what do you do with that instinct? You use it to win, support others, concur, take care of the needy, be wealthier than, and advance human understanding. As Yoda sez “For you to be powerful, control the power you must”.

  11. You certainly can market greed. (and bigotry and paranoia) It’s called Republicanism. The rest of the world refers to it as neo-liberal, or Friedmanite, economics. How are you going to regulate and assure businesses follow the examples of the credit unions and the BB&Es if you don’t believe government plays a role in protecting the citizenry from predatory capitalists? if you are wholesale against unionization? If you believe markets should have total control and the government none?

  12. I would agree in a political sense your right. I did mention regulation and it being enforced as curtail for a fair system of commerce. I am just arguing what I think is better syntax(?) for greed on the consumer level of doing business not its political application for creating circumstances for easy corruption for personal gain. I think most people know that greed is bad and don’t actively seek to be greedy. I think jealousy is more pervasive in our society.

  13. walmart and other “multi-national” corporations exploit the common perception that there is no higher good than cheap prices. If we insisted that civil rights be considered the highest good, and that prices may be as low as they can be without sacrificing social rights, then wal mart would not exist in the form it does today. currently we american shoppers accept the faustian bargain that the price of our cheap shirts must also include worker exploitation (both here and abroad in manufacturing operations) and environmental exploitation (dirty air because it “to expensive” to have clean transportation fleets, polluted water because its “too expensive” to manufacture in a way that does not pollute the water, etc) and resource wastefulness (packaging to support branding and merchandising, etc). if this sort of human rights abuse were not permitted, then our gear would cost more, but we would not be kicking the can down the road for future generations to deal with/suffer through. we would each have 4 or 5 shirts, instead of 20. we would not shop at walmart because the so called economies of scale would not exist, based as they are on the fallacy that the exploitation of the earth and its people does not “cost” anything and makes things “cheaper.” barndoor is right, this economic collapse will only strengthen walmarts position. notice that congress was so eager to give the white collar crooks their 700 billion, but will not give 15 billion to actually help blue collar workers because they are union, and therefor greedy. after all, what business do blue collar workers have to aspire to make 6 figures and have a decent quality of life? thats offensive because it makes cars cost more. ditto making cars non-polutting. However, making millions while destroying the whole economy is not offensive, because it was done in order to give us cheap credit to buy more cheap crap. thanks to TV and the modern marketing industry, we value cheap crap and access to cheap crap more than human life (or any life). our culture reflects that.

  14. cripsyduck Says:

    Amen that, spew.

    Economy has been beating humanity for too long. It’s really the issue that sparked the birth of the U.S. And yet, people still line up to be flogged.

    Were that we were better informed, less reactionary and more empathic.

  15. Spew make a good point on the greed side of of the issue. Maybe I am giving people to much credit.

  16. cripsyduck Says:

    nah, your jealousy point’s pretty relevant.

  17. That walla-in hog might have a serous point. Google may be the Wal Mart of the net. Check it out ; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/googlewashing_revisited/

  18. the point about jealousy is completely relevant: jealousy is a critical component of the marketing machine. as was said, they “use jealousy to sell their products.” the genius of it is that they convince us that jealosy is ok while greed remains bad. keeping a kid in your basement and starving him is bad, but being complicit in the starvation of a kid far away so you can have a cheaper shoe is different. so there is a germ of decency in all people, we are just too ready to compromise it if that ids the path of least resistance. its awkward, but people get credit on both the positive and the negative side of the ledger simultaneously.

  19. So is moral behavior decided on by the masses or something to strive for yet still derived by the populace?

  20. cripsyduck Says:

    I believe the line is

    “we hold these truths to be self-evident”

  21. Constitutional morality for a 1000 Alex.

  22. I can’t wait for the Wal-Mart to open. Every time I shop there, I support my wife’s retirement, because there’s this neat thing called “stock” that you can buy. It’s great- look into it.

  23. cripsyduck Says:

    Fine, sell out every business in your community for your wife’s retirement. Glorifying selfish greed is such a staple of the right these days. You might want to take some Mandarin lessons while you’re at it.

  24. Dear sparky, do a brief search on stock funded retirement plans and see how that works out for most people. even that is a crap shoot. so you could be selling out your neighbors (and the american manufacturing sector) just to send your wife to buy dog food for dinner at the wal-mart anyway when you (she?) retires. all this so you can save $2 on a few things you need but mostly on a bunch of stuff you don’t need. Oh, you do get to possibly trample a greeter with your other gullible lemming shoppers at christmas time in order to get a cheaper TV, so that’s another bonus.

  25. “Fine, sell out every business in your community for your wife’s retirement.”

    Have you been to Zion Crossroads? What business? You mean the 2 country stores that employ maybe 4 people at minimum wage? Get a gallon of milk there and you’re likely to have to wipe the dust off before you put it in your fridge… that is if you have $6.50 to pay for it.

    For those of us that actually live here, Wal-Mart is going to be a huge blessing. 200 jobs (over 90% with some form of health insurance), plus the ability to put money back into our own community via tax income. No more running to Charlottesville/Albemarle to fill their coffers. I think jealousy is where this comes from. With Capitalism, someone can come up with a great idea, a great business model, and put forth the time, money and effort to make it into something (lets not forget, most don’t make it and all the time money and effort is gone).. God forbid they get rich. That’s just not fair is it?

  26. cripsyduck Says:

    Yeah, real jealous. 200 jobs, you say? With health insurance, you say? And tax money paid to the community, you say? You wish.

    Wal-Mart is famous for reneging on all those deals. They notoriously do not insure their employees, preferring instead to coach them on how to get health care free locally. They are also famous for signing tax-exemption deals with small communities and then moving their business beyond county lines when the due date is up, leaving a hulking useless empty husk in its place.

    Wal-Mart started as a pretty brilliant idea, I’ll grant you that. A boon to working people in retail and manufacturing back when their motto was “100% American Goods.” But now they hock third-world schwag at cut-rate prices, regularly pricing the manufacturers themselves out of the market.

    If you want to send all that dough off to China, then I guess you go ahead and be all proud of yourself. But I’d rather pay a little more to buy something locally, from a local proprietor, who employs locals, pays local taxes, and spends his earnings in the local economy. Call me crazy.

    And good luck breaking out of the minimum wage bracket if you do go to work there. Especially if you’re a woman. They’re famous for that shit, too.

  27. I won’t be working there, but my son probably will. It’s the perfect fill in job for him while he goes to college in Richmond. It’s close to home and decent part-time pay. As for sending your money off to China, good luck finding anywhere that doesn’t do the same, unless you’re buying hemp rope hammocks from the hippies up at Twin Oaks. Our economy is not an industrial one any longer, and honestly, why would we want to go back to that? With industry comes chemicals, pollution, and low paying jobs. Let China and the third world countries have it. That way we can focus our energy on educating our youth for jobs in the service, information and research economy that is here now and likely will be for the unforeseen future.

  28. cripsyduck Says:

    I can tell you’re earnest about all this, Doc, but I’ve really gotta disagree with you about the loss of manufacturing jobs and the birth of the service industry. After all, where’d the industrial sector go? To countries with cheap labor and low environmental standards. And where is the service sector economy going? To countries with cheap labor and low environmental standards. Ever talk to an Indian when you needed your phone service updated? Your son will have to compete with those guys for jobs, and he can’t, because that guy can make $12,000 a year and live like a Raja (king) in India. Over here, you can’t get a mortgage for that money.

    It’d be nice to think that we can all wear suits to work and drive new BMW’s, but the dirty fact is, it’ll never be like that. Somebody’s always gonna have to drive the trash trucks, build the houses, clean the sewage plant.

    The reason you can’t find anything not made in China is because of the break-down of regulations in industry. Not because they can do it better, but because rich people get richer by using cheaper and cheaper labor. You know those Mexican car plants they built in the 90s? Those companies are already looking to move their plants out of those regions, in search of even cheaper labor.

    You know what it costs a Chinese company to import its goods into the U.S. Very, very little. Know what it costs to move American goods into China? An ungodly fortune. Know why? Because China has tariffs. So does India. So does everybody – except us. Know why? Because a bunch of conservative economic charlatans from Chicago made up the concept of a “Free Market” and deregulated the hell out of the U.S. economy.

    There’s no such thing as a truly free market, any more than there can be a “Free Football Game.” And so, here we are. No jobs, no money, tons of debt, and barely the resources to defend ourselves from starvation – forget outside enemies. It’s the end of American Empire if you ask me. We’ve been sold out by multinational corporatists who could care less about the “land of the free.”

    Oh, and I love hippies. At least they know what they want and are often willing to share. And hemp’s pretty useful stuff. They say you could run your car off it.

  29. mosaicmaestro Says:

    OK, I must jump into this fray. I’m roiling over the following line from Doc’s last post: “With industry comes chemicals, pollution… Let China and the third world countries have it.” Do you think, Doc, that toxic chemicals and pollution understand abstract geographical boundaries? I can assure you with the utmost confidence that they don’t! All them chems are spilling out and over into your air and water. Not to mention that China has distinguished itself as being the #1 emitter of CO2. It sounds to me like you have yet to see “An Inconvenient Truth,” in which case, I urge you to. And if you don’t think you will watch it anytime soon, here’s a synopsis: In a nutshell, China’s factories emit CO2 which degrades Earth’s atmosphere.And China has no intention of changing anytime soon, so this degradation will continue and contribute to the rapidly melting glaciers and polar ice cap. Where is all that meltwater going? The ocean. We here in central Virginia might have beach front property in a hundred years! Anyhoo…while the issue of global warming has taken a back seat this year due to the economy and healthcare debates, it doesn’t change the fact that we’re at critical mass. And it’s attitudes like yours which make my heart sink for if there isn’t a sea change soon, in terms of the world’s governments and populations coming together to help reverse global warming’s deadly effects (the Kyoto Protocol was a step in the right direction, but only a step), then worse case scenario is annhilation of many species, including, possibly, us. The Earth will always be here, but we’re fragile!
    Pleasant dreams!

  30. cripsyduck Says:

    Just had to share this:


  31. Hahaha, I love how this anti-WalMart post has become a rant against Capitalism in general, and the unseen but terribly greedy Reaganite, right-wing capitalists.

    You all sound like a bunch of comfortably middle-class punks who want to complain about some injustice that really doesn’t impact your own life. You still can obviously afford to buy from local businesses and, undoubtedly, Whole Foods (oh, until that recent anti-Obamacare article in the Wall Street Journal written by Whole Foods’ CEO). The bottom line is that while you all can keep your sense of honor and superiority by paying more for your food, your clothing, your toothbrushes, there are thousands of people in this country for whom WalMart, with its low prices, is a godsend.

    So go ahead and insult those people, but for many of them WalMart is basically a necessity. You might consider that next time you self-righteously walk into Whole Foods and fork over $5.00 for a loaf of organic whole wheat bread….because you are, for all your pretense, essentially elitists.

    • mosaicmaestro Says:

      With a little thought and ingenuity one can bypass Wal-Mart in an elitist New York minute. While I am not poor at this particular juncture in my life, I have been and it’s quite possible I will be again one day. And during my spate(s) of poverty, I survived without Wal-Mart. Point is, creativity and planning can be put to use to find alternative strategies for procuring goods. For example, you want to buy produce but want to bypass Wal-Mart and Whole Foods? Grow a garden. Too busy, too disabled, too tired to grow that garden? Fine. Get to know someone with a garden and trade your skills, time or services for some of their produce. The working poor somehow managed to get by in the days before the invention of the big box store.

      Homo Sapiens have survived Romans, Visigoths, Vikings, the Permian Extinction, Ice Ages, the Black Plague, and the Dust Bowl, all without Wal-Mart. And you must be elitist too, as you have (A) a computer and (B) time to rant on blogs. So put that in your envelope and lick it!

  32. cripsyduck Says:

    Wal-Mart is total garbage not because I think I’m cooler than people with mullets (can’t be affirmed or denied) but because the goods cost the same but the American consumer doesn’t pay it. Those costs are absorbed by wage laborers in other countries whose land is destroyed and whose economy is crushed all because $.20/hour is more than they’d make trading locally – and, of course, they still can’t afford to buy those things themselves anyway. If those goods were manufactured in the U.S. (as they proudly were when Wal-Mart began) then U.S workers would be able to afford to pay what they are actually worth. (Because, presumably, they’d have decent paying manufacturing jobs.) You’re not thinking this all the way through.

    As I stated earlier, Wal-Mart is taking your local money and shipping it off to China. If that’s ok with you, then happy Fox and Friends or whatever gets you through. I, for one, am not comforted by being run through the grinder by landed gentry enterprises that care nothing for community, country or humanity.

    And screw the C.E.O. of Whole Foods. I won’t buy his crap either.

  33. I’ve got to comment here…

    So you don’t like the fact that Walmart is shipping U.S. money off to China and yet you complain that it is not paying foreign workers (like Chinese workers) enough? I think you’re a bit mixed up. Besides, Walmart is merely following our government’s lead in sending money to China–that is, if our government ever makes good on repaying all the high-interest loans that it has received from China.

    I think the complainers need to build a time machine and go back to the 1840s because this little tight-knit community, barter-system economics that you dream about has not really existed in this country since before the 2nd Industrial Revolution. Walmart might be a modern-day manifestation of the vast changes that occurred during the rise of industry, but it is hardly the root of it. If Walmart were to topple, there would be plenty of other big businesses that I’m sure you would be complaining about. Bottom line, we will never go back to 1840, so maybe it is time to get with the program instead of ranting about Walmart’s very existence/expansion? Or you could move to a an undeveloped region of the world where you can grow your own garden, live in tight-knit extended family units, barter with the locals to your heart’s content, and keep your carbon footprint to a minimum by peeing in an outhouse. Otherwise, I’m pretty sure you, in some ways, are a contributor to the very problems about which you complain. By the way, do any of the complainers here even live in Gordonsville?

    In the meantime, the Gordonsville Walmart will be bringing about 250 jobs to the area during a time of great job loss. Nobody will be forced to work there, but my guess is that there are plenty of people who are quite eager to work there. Undoubtedly, there is actually quite a lot of competition to work there. But maybe you would rather see these people go unemployed? At least then you wouldn’t compromise your convictions.

  34. cripsyduck Says:

    Dude, I’d settle for going back to 1980. In 1980, Chinese industry had to pay tariffs to import goods to the U.S. God knows, American companies have to pay huge tariffs to send goods to China, and damn near every other trading partner we have. But they don’t have to pay tariffs to import goods here. Why is that? Because our corporate masters have rigged the U.S. system to allow them to have their way with us. If you’re okay with that, then keep on believing and blowing your money on disposable plastic crap at the big “W.” But I can’t, and won’t, do it.

  35. yeah,I think the complainers need to build a time machine and go back to the 1840s.

  36. cripsyduck Says:

    The old “you guys are whiners” attack. Brilliant. You really got me, asshole.

    The 1840’s, huh? That was before the Republican party, right? Sounds great to me.

    Although, just before Reagan and that pile of lying destructive bullshit would suffice. Or perhaps you enjoy being up to your ass in hock to a foreign power. Whatever satisfies your daddy complex, I guess.

  37. Yep.. Walmart is so horrible.. they are a blight on the community..


    $50,000 in tax revenue to the county in one month.. incredible. Now if they can just keep tax and spend liberals from blowing it on something stupid…

  38. I wonder how much of the supplies we’re distributing in Haiti came through Walmart’s distribution chain.

  39. walmart (kmart, best buy, whole foods, big box, whatever) is a symptom of a big government non free market economy that we all subsidize. we are cooerced to participate by low prices. this economy could not exist without the support and subsidy of our government, and the reason they support it is not to make milk more affordable or less dusty for bob and sally american. it is structured this way so that the people who pay to have the legislature structure our economy to their liking can get very very rich with the minimum regard for the common good. these are the facts, and jumping up and down about a new wal mart isn’t, unfortunately, going to change them. like it or not we are the rat who shows up for his electric shock right on time every day because we get a “treat” every time. they don’t even need to keep us in a cage for the most part. we are clever but not very intelligent. or at least we do not have the will to intelligently think through what we give up and what we get in exchange – I almost did once but then it was time for my treat. we allow our environment – and therefore our health – to be degraded and our tax dollars (for those of us who pay taxes) spent to subsidize energy and fuel costs so we can afford to have a whole category of products that we dont need (television, video games, ipods, the computer I am writing on right now), which can convince us to buy more and more products in quantities that we dont need (how may shirts do you have?), and these products are also made “affordable” by the subsidized energy sector so they can be shipped from the other side of the globe so they can be made by wage slaves from materials that are harvested in a manner that degrades the environment, and on and on. its a bitch and its just like the little wheel that the rat runs on between treats. (and rationalizing it away as a positive – where we get all the benefits but those “others” bear the indignities – is a charming coping strategy, not very original, but cute). Furthermore, statistics show that we have never been less healthy (unless you count long lived as healthy) or less happy (unless you call always having too much to eat happy). but thank goodness they have pills for that.

    we started out under a vision of free men and women whose interactions would create a free market economy and a culture of individual rights, we have found that we haven’t changed a thing except that the kings no longer wear crowns (at least in public) and that they have no national allegiances. Its official, we have been bribed into submission and we’ve found we like it.

    so lets not yell at each other about where we shop, but lets do keep talking about why we shop, and why it is considered a foolish anachronism for a man to be able to produce something of value to his neighbors, in a manner that does not require unsustainable resource harvesting, and earn a dignified living wage? and i mean besides growing weed. (telling that all this is only possible in an illegal – i.e. unregulated -segment of the economy) where are the tailors? where are the millers, where are the cobblers? these are not un-viable professions because we are so “modern” and the world is so populated, these are not viable because we have subsidized the multi-nationals to the point that you cannot feed yourself doing it because we believe that a pair of shoes really only costs $10! a shirt for $5! its not magic, folks, we havent discovered the perpetual motion machine or shattered the law of the conservation of matter, there is still no such thing as a free lunch. thanks for listening (in case you did), sorry for any typos or poor syntax (no editing). peace out

  40. Just one thing. There is a well established shirt maker on Cary St in downtown Richmond who makes shirts by hand in his shop. He’s been there at lest since the sixties if not longer. There are more of the aboved mentioned proffessions than you think, and thier products cost 10 times what you would ever be willing to pay but they have a very nice clientel of “the Rich” who can afford and appreciate their output. So go out and find these people and support them. You may have to go on line and actually look for them. Bet ya a dollar to a dougnut that you will fine the cost to be more than you would be willing to pay.

  41. cripsyduck Says:

    I think the luxury shirtmaker is a little different than a local tailor who may have to sell his shirt for twice the megamart, but who helps enrich and sustain the local economy. (And hopefully makes a better, more unique product.) The logic goes that the cost of buying a shirt at a big box actually costs more in real dollars than the guy with a sewing machine, who pays local taxes and spends his earnings in the local community.

    Remember how Gandhi was into weaving his own cloth? What if Americans started doing that? (It’s not expensive.) And legalized hemp for spinning? And started trading commodities rather than dollars, decentralizing our treasury? Then we’d be onto something.

    I hope for the best for you guys out there at the Crossroads, but Wal-Mart’s pretty much poison. Then again, they’ve started buying organics, so maybe they’re just pure capitalists, and maybe it’s US who don’t know how to demand the right stuff.

  42. The guy I was referrancing was/is the local little guy competing against Miller&Rhoads and Thalhiemers. There is or was another small clothier, Jefferson something or another, in richmond also. Both started out not as “luxury” clothiers but the local merchant. As were Miller&Rhoads and Thalhiemers, althought they were dept stores.

    Reguardless, I agree with your statement and think your right. Although we are so spoiled by our success that our time is usually full of everything else to do other than making stuff to trade. Demand and supply-supply and demand! Thats capitalism and thats good!

  43. as long as your method of supply is not subsidized, not only by direct government capital infusions but including subsidy by government sanctioned violation of the human rights of others (including degrading the public environment and therefore health) then yes, that’s capitalism and that’s good. if your method of supply requires subsidy, overt or otherwise, then that’s not free market capitalism, that’s an ass fucking. and if marketing forces get you to want it that’s an ass fucking with some nice numbing lube that you’ve gotten to like…

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